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The Psychology of Improving With Sales Expert Paul Scheper

Be willing to make mistakes…once

  • Author of “The Psychology of Improving From A to Z: The ABC’s of Self-Improvement”

  • He gives them away to connect with real estate professionals

  • S.I.T. “Stay In Touch” if you want to succeed in sales

  • Emails monthly

  • Sends a snail mail newsletter

  • His daughter does the real estate side of things

  • He does the loans

  • You must get customers before you even have a database to market to

  • Who has a problem I can solve?

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  • Sales is really just two things:

    • How can I help my customer make money?

    • How do I help my customers save money?

  • Inch by inch it’s a sinch. Yard by yard it’s hard.

  • He buys lists of high interest borrowers and those with PMI

  • He does snail mail to them and gets 0.4% percent to respond, so 4/10ths of a percent

  • A lot of people say “maybe” and he drips on them

  • New, fresh customers in one part of the database and then the “maybes”

  • FU means “Follow Up”

  • FU to FT (follow through)

  • Work smart and work hard

  • The Big Four

    • Twitter

    • YouTube

    • LinkedIn

    • Facebook Business Page

  • The fifth is TikTok. It’s unbelievable over there!

  • He does a lot with senior citizens on reverse mortgages and so he’s reaching the kids of those prospects

  • He gets on Groups on LinkedIn and engages

  • Certified financial planners, Elder attorneys, etc. is where he posts and engages

  • Be careful not to oversaturate the groups

  • He posts once per week with fresh content

  • Give, comment, like, and acknowledge others

  • Contribute because givers gain

  • “It is in giving that you receive.” St. Francis of Assisi

It is in giving that you receive.”

  • People don’t care about you

  • It’s a slowly but surely kind of thing

  • It requires some patience

  • No one thing works. They all work.

  • He eventually gets some DMs and leads happen

  • Even his Facebook personal page gets him traction

  • Uses HootSuite to share onto his Facebook Page

  • “I remember things and I forget things.”

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  • His son persuaded him to write a book

  • His son wrote a book when he was 22, “How to Get Focused In a Distracted World” when he was at Chapman and he learned how to focus and got straight A’s

  • His son challenged him to write a book after attending his seminars because Paul always had an ABC list on how to grow and improve.

  • Paul doesn’t want to write another book because it’s hard!

  • Took him two years.

  • You gotta be willing to make mistakes…but never make the same mistake twice.

S.I.T.: Stay In Touch to succeed in sales.”

  • It’s best to learn from the mistakes of others

  • Without a goal, good luck!

  • In 1983, interest rates were 13-14%. Now they’re in the high 5% range instead of the high 2%.

  • PDR: Practice. Drill. Rehearse. (Tom Hopkins)

  • You have to address the stalls and the “I’ll be back.”

  • “Come from your heart. Just to clarify for me.”

  • The set aside technique…”Let’s set that aside for now. What else is causing you to delay this decision?”

  • “If you don’t do anything at all, and you won’t hurt my feelings, how is your life going to get better?” Then shut up and listen.

  • Silent and listen are the same six letters.

  • A lot of times they don’t trust you.

  • Go find the decision makers.

Seek progress instead of perfection.”

  • Be like Larry King and Oprah.

  • Ask open ended questions.

  • Get them to recognize the problem

  • Give them the tool to scratch the itch.

  • Listen with your eyes, your ears, and your heart.

  • If you wait for the perfect time, it’ll never happen.

  • It’s okay. Take a step.

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